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This site is a total disgrace. The bizayon haTorah of R. Slifkin and others is appalling. What happened to human dignity, kavod habriut, loving your neighbor, respect and love for others? The vitriol is so disturbing and not consistent with the professed beliefs of the contributors.

You should be ashamed of yourselves!

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Padre Rodriguez's avatar

The entire issue, the relevance of the Chinuch, is baffling to me.

Hashgacha Pratis means that each person has hashgacha, and the world works for his benefit. His benefit does not mean more money, comfort or pleasure for him, but for him to serve Hashem. Meaning, if a person walks down the street, and the wind blows something in his way, that was orchestrated by Hashem for this person to serve Him better. It doesn't mean that the person will not die, he certainly will die. And after he dies, he will be dead, completely. Hashgacha Pratis never claimed that a person will not die.

Hashgacha Klalis is the same thing, but not for the individual animal, but for the entire species. It does not have to mean that the species will never die. It means that the world is geared towards the existence of this species for the benefit of Avodas Hashem. If nobody's Avodas Hashem requires it, they can go extinct, and that is not a contradiction to Hashgacha Klalis.

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