The comment "Are we Jews mostly concerned with our own parochial, national self-interest of the Jewish community, and thereby act selfishly to the rest of the world?" should be read in context. All normal human beings are only interested in themselves and their groupings e.g by religion, occupation, locality. Each religious group, or occupation or locality sets itself as the object of that association.
I remember reading an article how many trades in the USA have their required qualifications in individual states fixed by state law when the required skills are obvious and do not need state regulation. Barbers come to mind. The underlying objective is to limit qualified operators so increasing the revenue for those who have already qualified. Also requiring a long training period delays / limits entry into the profession so decreasing supply and allowing high charge out rates by those who qualified .
In the USA I understand many states offer subsidies or preferential tax rates for companies setting up plants in their state i.e. the state is looking after its own interest and not the country's interest.
Given the above quote is to single out the Jews as looking out for their own interesrts without stating that so naturally do many other groupings ( religious, professional, geographic etc) is in my view antisemitic since it implies Jews are different from anyone else.
However I do note judging by the names on university buildings, hospitals etc a preponderance of Jewish names. Our culture is to give charity - and generously. However gratitude is a quality in short supply in human activity around the world.
"...i understand that this has some horrible sounding ramifications. it means we "don't care about anything but ourselves." we are living in this country and are not willing to fight for it. we're just leeches. but hey - guess what? that was the antisemitic rhetoric for our entire existence! we were always hated because we were leeches. we've always lived in other countries while we really never cared about them. we never joined their armies (unless we were forced, which was considered a terrible tragedy), we never became "them." and it bothered our hosts to no end. i hate to say it, and i i say this hoping you can take this in context, but this isn't quite so different. this is what happens when the mission is olam haba and torah, not olam hazeh. we don't get sucked up in the noise of the world and all of its screaming "hishtadlus." we simply do what He asks, and He in turn takes care of the menial stuff. that is chareidi ideology. (again, it's not actually like other countries, but in the scale of importance to our torah learning, it is)
it may sound selfish, but it really just is a different value system. the call to fight in the army is the same as the call to fight in the american army. saving israel is simply not something worth giving up yiddishkeit for. when our numbers are really needed, hopefully the army will have no choice but to make real accommodations on our terms, limiting the spiritual damage."
I see I missed some good stuff while busy with good things at home. I think this post is your most important work so far and I would love to write a post about chesed vs taking from the government
Rhetoric has to contain a kernel of truth to be effective.
The Bavli says the Churban Bayis Sheini happened because of sinas chinam. The Yerushalmi says sinas chinam and...love of money.
Being personally righteous but still a lover of money can still apply.
Case in point is the Reichmann family. Not long ago, I had wondered what happened to them after their hard fall in the 1990s. It turned out, in their efforts to reclaim lost glory or money or whatever they had partnered for a time with fellow Hungarian George Soros. Then, I knew. George Soros had a knack for making money. But...former partner Jim Rogers, while usually circumspect about their split, spilled the beans one time in some book about him, and it was clear that he was a very bad man. Ruthlessly amoral, who would kill his own mother (IMHO) if he thought he could gain from it. At best, the Reichmanns displayed appallingly poor judgement teaming up with him. Because of money.
Love of money is destructive. And my experience, growing up in Beverly Hills among movers and shakers, is that Jews love money in a way that defies description.
This movie doesn't even have to be 10% true to convey feelings that resonate with the goyim among whom the Jews were living. There is a kernel of truth to the story.
I think there is truth to the antisemitic claim that we kinda take take take. We don't have our own land and we live as guests, and we do our own thing, never fully integrating.
As a kid I heard a speech from a Rabbi Mordechai Becher (Australian kiruv professional) who compared us to the Harry Potter books (which I shamefully never read but heard a lot about). The genius of the series is that these wizards and witches live amongst the muggles but have their own little world to themselves. We Jews, we live, say, in America, and we go to schools, but our own schools. We listen to music, but our own music. We eat in restaurants and pizza shops, but our own restaurants and pizza shops. We speak English, but our own English. We dress with style, but our own style. And so on. We live *amongst* them physically, but we really kinda have our own thing going. And they don't really like it. So while our crime rate is down and we drive carefully and talk respectfully, and they can't really pinpoint to why they hate us so, we are really living parallel lives, where we never really meet up and mingle with them.
This affects our relationship with the country at large. We live in America and even love it, but we are foremost Jews, not Americans. So in a way, we are enjoying the benefits of society but not quite being part of it, not giving back to in the way a "real American" would.
First of all most of them integrate. They are ethnically different, not b'shita. But if you don't like it, np. I found it cute. I'm sorry for sharing...
I disagree with this analysis. The main reason for all the dynamics you are seeing is because Jews are more intelligent and have very strong family bonds, so they are able to penetrate high places much more easily. Of course, this itself is a tribal dynamic, and quite naturally causes us to make decisions for our communal self-interest, which leads the anti-Semites to attribute to us selfish and devious intentions. When in real truth, this is just the natural decision-making process of distinct groups. See Michael Stern's comment above.
There's belief and there's knowledge. Believe what you want, test.
Besides which, your comment is a total non-sequitor and thus retarded. Do you ever stick to the subject? What's next? Complaining about factory minyans?
I remember reading a book, Human Accomplishment, where he brakes down all average IQ and statistics among all groups and races. His numbers are a bit higher for Ashkenazim at 110, while Hong Kong at 108. I didn't bother Googling it.
If the average for Ashkenazim were really 110, which it isn't, that would make Sephardim borderline retarded for real, to make that number work mathematically. No, it's a stupid lie with no actual evidence for it, save some self-selected study participants. I have heard the specific number of 107 for mainland Chinese, from a source I trust, so 108 for HK is certainly possible.
Even much of Israel's vaunted high-tech rep, dominated by Ashkenazim, is fake, fueled by free money (gone for good) and connections.
Consider the above blog post (with actual citations), Happy's review of the movie, and other comments here about Jews just naturally rising to the top because of innate intelligence. It's a lie.
Shimshon, I agree the IQ study is a bad study, and is biased towards elite educated Ashkenazic Jews. But when we talk about all those Jews on Wall St and DC and Hollywood, all those Jews in power, we are also talking about elite educated Ashkenazic Jews. So if the IQ study is a bad study, the observation about Jews in power, which has no study at all, is even worse. We can't demand rigorous studies to explain something that we assert without rigorous studies.
(BTW, I am almost sure the numbers for mainland China are even more biased. How many people are they looking at. A handful of students in the biggest cities?)
You can be extremely ambitious and very successful if that ambition is not curtailed by a moral compass, regardless of intelligence. Just because they know how to stab their enemies in the back 50 different ways doesn't necessarily make them smarter. Although I grant they can be.
Also, to the degree they are smart, their raw IQ is handicapped by the webs of lies they weave about everything.
"Even much of Israel's vaunted high-tech rep, dominated by Ashkenazim, is fake, fueled by free money (gone for good) and connections."
This is mixture of a gibberish, nonsense, fantasy and general BS. The Israeli economy is no more 'fake' than any other economy. And your claims about 'gone for good' are warmed over Vox Day-dreaming about how we're in the middle of some hyper-inflated bubble-fueled great depression, just without all the unemployed people, breadlines, and everything else that defined the great depression in the first place. ('Make Great Depressions Great Again!')
You based your opinions on what? You display a low level of reading comprehension. I didn't say the economy is fake. I said "much of high tech is fake," which it is. Gaming, gambling, financial legerdemain.
The free money, courtesy of ZIRP, is over. Stick a fork in it. It's done.
"If the average for Ashkenazim were really 110, which it isn't, that would make Sephardim borderline retarded for real, to make that number work mathematically"
This is too vague to be meaningful. First of all, you'd need to know what percentage of each group is. What is the ratio of sephardim to ashkenazim? And where are you getting your average number from? Also, there's a difference between mean and median.
"Third, given the average reported Israeli IQ of 95, and the average reported Jordanian IQ of 84, the claim of an average 115 IQ for Ashkenazi Jews would necessarily require all other Jews to have an average IQ of 84.2. This means that even if Ashkenazi Jews did have a mean IQ of 115, then the average global Jewish IQ would be 107.0. However, on the basis of the original studies pointing out that the reported IQ scores are not indicative of mean or average Ashkenazi IQ, we can be 100 percent certain that this estimated 107 IQ is higher than the real Jewish average."
I don't remember (it was like 5 years ago when I saw it at a house I was staying at for a simcha). He provided the sources there though, if you want to look up the book.
The average Jewish IQ in Israel is 95. "You believe" what you want to believe. Like many other commenters here. You are right about being tribal is a source of collective Jewish strength, even to our detriment, because many Jews who personally benefit are quite wretched.
"Not quick at all. Vox Day references and deconstructs the Cochran study, along with others claiming highly elevated Ashkenazi IQ."
He does no such thing. He writes "First, you will note the usual definitional switch we’ve learned to anticipate. A subset – Ashkenazim – is substituted for the full set of Jews," as though that were some sort of gotcha point. The study itself is *literally titled* "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence." And the authors explicitly write "It is noteworthy that non-Ashkenazi Jews do not have high average IQ test scores (Ortar,
1967), nor are they overrepresented in cognitively demanding fields. This is important in
developing any causal explanation of Ashkenazi cognitive abilities: any such theory must
explain high Ashkenazi IQ, the unusual structure of their cognitive abilities, and the lack
of these traits among Sephardic and Oriental Jews (Burg and Belmont, 1990; Patai,
1977"
The only one doing the switching is Vox Day himself. He's probably too stupid to actually read the actual paper. Maybe some Ashkenazi Jew can help break it down for him. Like, maybe Ben Shapiro is available.
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FWIW, I don't have much of a dog in this whole IQ fight. It is what it is. Maybe Ashkenazi Jews are smart, maybe we control the weather via our Rothchild connections. Not sure how much of a difference it actually makes. Either way, Vox Day is a moron. If you're going to look up to an antisemite, at least find one with a high enough IQ not to write that sort of drivel.
The facts are that Jews are disproportionately represented in the world. This can be interpreted in different ways. So why would we interpret the story in a negative light? Leave that to our haters! No shortage of them:(
The positive narrative, as Happy said, is that our culture lauds education, familial values and support, resilience against adversity, generosity (as Stern pointed out) and, for the non-rationalists, we probably have some other stuff going for us as well.
I think Plonius is quite wrong, but let's not trip over ourselves with self-righteousness, shall we? What did you think of Eretz Nehederet clip was and this post https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/why-do-people-hate-charedim ? Just important and constructive criticism?
I didn't see it. Nor am I interested in seeing it.
Please don't call me self righteous.
Plonious spewed 3000 years of Jew hatred in one paragraph. BTW, I don't use the term antisemite anymore. It's too clinical and and academic, just as Wilhelm Marr intended it( although it had been invented earlier in a very different context.) Jew-hater is my choice of phrase.
And ....The Rabbi is not convinced by Oppenheimer’s Biblical exegesis, but Oppenheimer prevails upon him, interpreting the Torah according to his own interests in" true Modox tradition." comment was disgusting.
The comment "Are we Jews mostly concerned with our own parochial, national self-interest of the Jewish community, and thereby act selfishly to the rest of the world?" should be read in context. All normal human beings are only interested in themselves and their groupings e.g by religion, occupation, locality. Each religious group, or occupation or locality sets itself as the object of that association.
I remember reading an article how many trades in the USA have their required qualifications in individual states fixed by state law when the required skills are obvious and do not need state regulation. Barbers come to mind. The underlying objective is to limit qualified operators so increasing the revenue for those who have already qualified. Also requiring a long training period delays / limits entry into the profession so decreasing supply and allowing high charge out rates by those who qualified .
In the USA I understand many states offer subsidies or preferential tax rates for companies setting up plants in their state i.e. the state is looking after its own interest and not the country's interest.
Given the above quote is to single out the Jews as looking out for their own interesrts without stating that so naturally do many other groupings ( religious, professional, geographic etc) is in my view antisemitic since it implies Jews are different from anyone else.
However I do note judging by the names on university buildings, hospitals etc a preponderance of Jewish names. Our culture is to give charity - and generously. However gratitude is a quality in short supply in human activity around the world.
Good points
https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/two-different-universes/comment/46364052
quoting myself;)
"...i understand that this has some horrible sounding ramifications. it means we "don't care about anything but ourselves." we are living in this country and are not willing to fight for it. we're just leeches. but hey - guess what? that was the antisemitic rhetoric for our entire existence! we were always hated because we were leeches. we've always lived in other countries while we really never cared about them. we never joined their armies (unless we were forced, which was considered a terrible tragedy), we never became "them." and it bothered our hosts to no end. i hate to say it, and i i say this hoping you can take this in context, but this isn't quite so different. this is what happens when the mission is olam haba and torah, not olam hazeh. we don't get sucked up in the noise of the world and all of its screaming "hishtadlus." we simply do what He asks, and He in turn takes care of the menial stuff. that is chareidi ideology. (again, it's not actually like other countries, but in the scale of importance to our torah learning, it is)
it may sound selfish, but it really just is a different value system. the call to fight in the army is the same as the call to fight in the american army. saving israel is simply not something worth giving up yiddishkeit for. when our numbers are really needed, hopefully the army will have no choice but to make real accommodations on our terms, limiting the spiritual damage."
....saving israel is simply not something worth giving up yiddishkeit for. when our numbers....
So it's nothing to do with 'torah protects'
We have many layers, test.
Great non-answer.
It's an answer. One facet of our shita is that torah protects. Another facet is that we don't value Zionism over everything else.
No. You made a slip of the tongue, confirming what every body really knows.
I really didn't. I still stand by what I said. But you can pick a fight if you want. Knock yourself out!
I love you buddy.
Oh, I've heard plenty of rabbonim giving the ok to welfare fraud for kollel yungerleit who need the money.
Is that leech like? Is that an olam hazeh mission or an olam haboh mission? Who is taking care of the 'menial stuff'?
Brilliant!
I see I missed some good stuff while busy with good things at home. I think this post is your most important work so far and I would love to write a post about chesed vs taking from the government
You may find this interesting.
Johann Eisenmenger's Judaism Unmasked
https://yutorah.org/lectures/1024736
Rhetoric has to contain a kernel of truth to be effective.
The Bavli says the Churban Bayis Sheini happened because of sinas chinam. The Yerushalmi says sinas chinam and...love of money.
Being personally righteous but still a lover of money can still apply.
Case in point is the Reichmann family. Not long ago, I had wondered what happened to them after their hard fall in the 1990s. It turned out, in their efforts to reclaim lost glory or money or whatever they had partnered for a time with fellow Hungarian George Soros. Then, I knew. George Soros had a knack for making money. But...former partner Jim Rogers, while usually circumspect about their split, spilled the beans one time in some book about him, and it was clear that he was a very bad man. Ruthlessly amoral, who would kill his own mother (IMHO) if he thought he could gain from it. At best, the Reichmanns displayed appallingly poor judgement teaming up with him. Because of money.
Love of money is destructive. And my experience, growing up in Beverly Hills among movers and shakers, is that Jews love money in a way that defies description.
This movie doesn't even have to be 10% true to convey feelings that resonate with the goyim among whom the Jews were living. There is a kernel of truth to the story.
I love that you actually watched this video lol! Curiosity is a wonderful Middah!
I think there is truth to the antisemitic claim that we kinda take take take. We don't have our own land and we live as guests, and we do our own thing, never fully integrating.
As a kid I heard a speech from a Rabbi Mordechai Becher (Australian kiruv professional) who compared us to the Harry Potter books (which I shamefully never read but heard a lot about). The genius of the series is that these wizards and witches live amongst the muggles but have their own little world to themselves. We Jews, we live, say, in America, and we go to schools, but our own schools. We listen to music, but our own music. We eat in restaurants and pizza shops, but our own restaurants and pizza shops. We speak English, but our own English. We dress with style, but our own style. And so on. We live *amongst* them physically, but we really kinda have our own thing going. And they don't really like it. So while our crime rate is down and we drive carefully and talk respectfully, and they can't really pinpoint to why they hate us so, we are really living parallel lives, where we never really meet up and mingle with them.
This affects our relationship with the country at large. We live in America and even love it, but we are foremost Jews, not Americans. So in a way, we are enjoying the benefits of society but not quite being part of it, not giving back to in the way a "real American" would.
Sorry for the rant...
"We eat in restaurants and pizza shops, but our own restaurants and pizza shops"
Muslims are the same and keep themselves to themselves. Ditto Chinese etc. They have their own culture, own style of English etc etc
There are numerous ethnic groups completely different from WASPS who keep themselves to themselves. And none of them are subject to anti....
Leave the shallow kiruv stuff that doesn't hold up to scrutiny or deep thought. Antisemitism is a gezeiroh min hashomayim and is not explainable.
First of all most of them integrate. They are ethnically different, not b'shita. But if you don't like it, np. I found it cute. I'm sorry for sharing...
"And they don't really like it"
Why not, by the way? Ho gufo, because its a gezeiroh.
I'm not interested in 'cute' shallow stuff, you should know that.
"First of all most of them integrate"
You are aware that 90% of Jews 'integrate' right? No protection from antisemitism.
Nuance is required, as usual, and both sides are not willing to engage with nuance.
I disagree with this analysis. The main reason for all the dynamics you are seeing is because Jews are more intelligent and have very strong family bonds, so they are able to penetrate high places much more easily. Of course, this itself is a tribal dynamic, and quite naturally causes us to make decisions for our communal self-interest, which leads the anti-Semites to attribute to us selfish and devious intentions. When in real truth, this is just the natural decision-making process of distinct groups. See Michael Stern's comment above.
Jews claim Jews are more intelligent. The "study" proving this had a small selection of elite educated Jews. It was hardly representative.
I went to a high school that was probably around 80% Jewish. I knew many stupid (relatively) Jews there.
We are not, in aggregate. Sephardim have an average IQ in the mid-90s. Ashkenazim, a bit above 100. The average Chinese IQ is higher.
Some Jews even believe in a flat earth. Fancy that!
There's belief and there's knowledge. Believe what you want, test.
Besides which, your comment is a total non-sequitor and thus retarded. Do you ever stick to the subject? What's next? Complaining about factory minyans?
I remember reading a book, Human Accomplishment, where he brakes down all average IQ and statistics among all groups and races. His numbers are a bit higher for Ashkenazim at 110, while Hong Kong at 108. I didn't bother Googling it.
If the average for Ashkenazim were really 110, which it isn't, that would make Sephardim borderline retarded for real, to make that number work mathematically. No, it's a stupid lie with no actual evidence for it, save some self-selected study participants. I have heard the specific number of 107 for mainland Chinese, from a source I trust, so 108 for HK is certainly possible.
Even much of Israel's vaunted high-tech rep, dominated by Ashkenazim, is fake, fueled by free money (gone for good) and connections.
https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/
Consider the above blog post (with actual citations), Happy's review of the movie, and other comments here about Jews just naturally rising to the top because of innate intelligence. It's a lie.
Shimshon, I agree the IQ study is a bad study, and is biased towards elite educated Ashkenazic Jews. But when we talk about all those Jews on Wall St and DC and Hollywood, all those Jews in power, we are also talking about elite educated Ashkenazic Jews. So if the IQ study is a bad study, the observation about Jews in power, which has no study at all, is even worse. We can't demand rigorous studies to explain something that we assert without rigorous studies.
(BTW, I am almost sure the numbers for mainland China are even more biased. How many people are they looking at. A handful of students in the biggest cities?)
You can be extremely ambitious and very successful if that ambition is not curtailed by a moral compass, regardless of intelligence. Just because they know how to stab their enemies in the back 50 different ways doesn't necessarily make them smarter. Although I grant they can be.
Also, to the degree they are smart, their raw IQ is handicapped by the webs of lies they weave about everything.
"Even much of Israel's vaunted high-tech rep, dominated by Ashkenazim, is fake, fueled by free money (gone for good) and connections."
This is mixture of a gibberish, nonsense, fantasy and general BS. The Israeli economy is no more 'fake' than any other economy. And your claims about 'gone for good' are warmed over Vox Day-dreaming about how we're in the middle of some hyper-inflated bubble-fueled great depression, just without all the unemployed people, breadlines, and everything else that defined the great depression in the first place. ('Make Great Depressions Great Again!')
You based your opinions on what? You display a low level of reading comprehension. I didn't say the economy is fake. I said "much of high tech is fake," which it is. Gaming, gambling, financial legerdemain.
The free money, courtesy of ZIRP, is over. Stick a fork in it. It's done.
"If the average for Ashkenazim were really 110, which it isn't, that would make Sephardim borderline retarded for real, to make that number work mathematically"
This is too vague to be meaningful. First of all, you'd need to know what percentage of each group is. What is the ratio of sephardim to ashkenazim? And where are you getting your average number from? Also, there's a difference between mean and median.
"https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/
"Consider the above blog post (with actual citations)"
He doesn't have any actual citations. He speculates about where people might have gotten stuff from. Here's https://www.aei.org/articles/the-2011-nobel-prize-and-the-debate-over-jewish-iq/ an article with some actual cites.
Also, Vox seems a bit confused:
"Third, given the average reported Israeli IQ of 95, and the average reported Jordanian IQ of 84, the claim of an average 115 IQ for Ashkenazi Jews would necessarily require all other Jews to have an average IQ of 84.2. This means that even if Ashkenazi Jews did have a mean IQ of 115, then the average global Jewish IQ would be 107.0. However, on the basis of the original studies pointing out that the reported IQ scores are not indicative of mean or average Ashkenazi IQ, we can be 100 percent certain that this estimated 107 IQ is higher than the real Jewish average."
Does he think that Jordan is a Jewish state?🤣 (Not to mention all the Israeli arabs in Jordan, I mean Israel.) About par for the course for a guy who 'successfully predicted' https://irrationalistmodoxism.substack.com/p/the-fallacy-of-economic-catastrophism/comment/18176152 the second great depression.
What are his sources?
I don't remember (it was like 5 years ago when I saw it at a house I was staying at for a simcha). He provided the sources there though, if you want to look up the book.
The average Jewish IQ in Israel is 95. "You believe" what you want to believe. Like many other commenters here. You are right about being tribal is a source of collective Jewish strength, even to our detriment, because many Jews who personally benefit are quite wretched.
Not quick at all. Vox Day references and deconstructs the Cochran study, along with others claiming highly elevated Ashkenazi IQ.
I mentioned the post above, and here it is again.
https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/
You believe in a myth, therefore you err, not I.
"Not quick at all. Vox Day references and deconstructs the Cochran study, along with others claiming highly elevated Ashkenazi IQ."
He does no such thing. He writes "First, you will note the usual definitional switch we’ve learned to anticipate. A subset – Ashkenazim – is substituted for the full set of Jews," as though that were some sort of gotcha point. The study itself is *literally titled* "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence." And the authors explicitly write "It is noteworthy that non-Ashkenazi Jews do not have high average IQ test scores (Ortar,
1967), nor are they overrepresented in cognitively demanding fields. This is important in
developing any causal explanation of Ashkenazi cognitive abilities: any such theory must
explain high Ashkenazi IQ, the unusual structure of their cognitive abilities, and the lack
of these traits among Sephardic and Oriental Jews (Burg and Belmont, 1990; Patai,
1977"
The only one doing the switching is Vox Day himself. He's probably too stupid to actually read the actual paper. Maybe some Ashkenazi Jew can help break it down for him. Like, maybe Ben Shapiro is available.
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FWIW, I don't have much of a dog in this whole IQ fight. It is what it is. Maybe Ashkenazi Jews are smart, maybe we control the weather via our Rothchild connections. Not sure how much of a difference it actually makes. Either way, Vox Day is a moron. If you're going to look up to an antisemite, at least find one with a high enough IQ not to write that sort of drivel.
The facts are that Jews are disproportionately represented in the world. This can be interpreted in different ways. So why would we interpret the story in a negative light? Leave that to our haters! No shortage of them:(
The positive narrative, as Happy said, is that our culture lauds education, familial values and support, resilience against adversity, generosity (as Stern pointed out) and, for the non-rationalists, we probably have some other stuff going for us as well.
Look at who those Jews are that disproportionately represent us. That's why it matters.
Jew hater!
I think Plonius is quite wrong, but let's not trip over ourselves with self-righteousness, shall we? What did you think of Eretz Nehederet clip was and this post https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/why-do-people-hate-charedim ? Just important and constructive criticism?
I didn't see it. Nor am I interested in seeing it.
Please don't call me self righteous.
Plonious spewed 3000 years of Jew hatred in one paragraph. BTW, I don't use the term antisemite anymore. It's too clinical and and academic, just as Wilhelm Marr intended it( although it had been invented earlier in a very different context.) Jew-hater is my choice of phrase.
Ok, if you are not interested in seeing that, that itself is worthy of respect!
And ....The Rabbi is not convinced by Oppenheimer’s Biblical exegesis, but Oppenheimer prevails upon him, interpreting the Torah according to his own interests in" true Modox tradition." comment was disgusting.
I know, interpreting the Torah according to one's self interests is disgusting, right?