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michael stern's avatar

The comment "Are we Jews mostly concerned with our own parochial, national self-interest of the Jewish community, and thereby act selfishly to the rest of the world?" should be read in context. All normal human beings are only interested in themselves and their groupings e.g by religion, occupation, locality. Each religious group, or occupation or locality sets itself as the object of that association.

I remember reading an article how many trades in the USA have their required qualifications in individual states fixed by state law when the required skills are obvious and do not need state regulation. Barbers come to mind. The underlying objective is to limit qualified operators so increasing the revenue for those who have already qualified. Also requiring a long training period delays / limits entry into the profession so decreasing supply and allowing high charge out rates by those who qualified .

In the USA I understand many states offer subsidies or preferential tax rates for companies setting up plants in their state i.e. the state is looking after its own interest and not the country's interest.

Given the above quote is to single out the Jews as looking out for their own interesrts without stating that so naturally do many other groupings ( religious, professional, geographic etc) is in my view antisemitic since it implies Jews are different from anyone else.

However I do note judging by the names on university buildings, hospitals etc a preponderance of Jewish names. Our culture is to give charity - and generously. However gratitude is a quality in short supply in human activity around the world.

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shulman's avatar

https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/two-different-universes/comment/46364052

quoting myself;)

"...i understand that this has some horrible sounding ramifications. it means we "don't care about anything but ourselves." we are living in this country and are not willing to fight for it. we're just leeches. but hey - guess what? that was the antisemitic rhetoric for our entire existence! we were always hated because we were leeches. we've always lived in other countries while we really never cared about them. we never joined their armies (unless we were forced, which was considered a terrible tragedy), we never became "them." and it bothered our hosts to no end. i hate to say it, and i i say this hoping you can take this in context, but this isn't quite so different. this is what happens when the mission is olam haba and torah, not olam hazeh. we don't get sucked up in the noise of the world and all of its screaming "hishtadlus." we simply do what He asks, and He in turn takes care of the menial stuff. that is chareidi ideology. (again, it's not actually like other countries, but in the scale of importance to our torah learning, it is)

it may sound selfish, but it really just is a different value system. the call to fight in the army is the same as the call to fight in the american army. saving israel is simply not something worth giving up yiddishkeit for. when our numbers are really needed, hopefully the army will have no choice but to make real accommodations on our terms, limiting the spiritual damage."

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