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מכרכר בכל עוז's avatar

What's astounding is that Natan thinks he brilliantly discovered this question. The Ramban in Sha'ar Hagmul famously deals with how although we know that everything is decreed min hashomayim, many times it's very hard for us to discern how that is so and sometimes life seems to be based on very 'natural' circumstances.

https://www.sefaria.org/Sha'ar_Ha'Gemul_of_the_Ramban.1?lang=bi

This is in fact one of the central messages of Sefer Iyov.

I think everyone agrees think that not too many people are on the level today to say that absolutely no hishtadlus is necessary. This was the machlokes discussed in Brachos between R' Yishmael and RSHBY. And we see that even in Chazal's time, R' Yishmael's view was the accepted practice. Although even his followers advocated for minimum hishtadlus, such as working only for two months a year and learning the rest of the time.

That being said, from my own personal friends, I can think of one guy I was with in Yeshiva who was definitely not the brightest, nor the most assertive type. He was kinda always at the edge of the pack. He now owns a mortgage company and according to a mutual friend is earning in the upper seven digits - annually. And I can think of another friend who is exceptionally smart, people savvy, determined, and aggressive, and nothing ever seems to work out for him. He is always going from one thing to the next.

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The way I learned it recently was that hishtadlus is the illusion by which we have the free will to believe our effort makes a difference. There have been times in my life when I have to work very hard for parnassah, and there have been other times where I barely have to lift my pinky. It's not meaningless. At the very least, it's an ongoing test. That's par for retards, putting words into our mouths to bolster their pathetic arguments.

I've experienced personally that more hishtadlus does not equate to more parnassa.

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